Wolves 0 Brentford 2 (Lewis-Potter 2)

[Banana]

People were understandably upset at half time. Not because they are negative people.

It was. Try and think positive. Your life will change.

 

[Paul_T]

Great afternoon out, think we thoroughly deserved the three points, made up for KLP getting a brace, even argued our way into Great Western pre match, happy Christmas you Bees, happy daze

 

[malkay]

We got the 3 points, and that is about all that can be said within a positive sense.

It's probably hard to say anything in a positive sense when you're a negative person. Champions elect needed this lot to score 2 own goals to beat them at home.

Cheer up.........

 

[Irsky]

Personally , I`m absolutely chuffed we won and as far as I`m concerned I don`t really care by the way that we win games = 3 points is on the board !.... I just much prefer to focus on the positives - 3 points - quality goals by KLP - Hard work by the players - 10 points from relegation zone and only 4 points from 5th ! ---I just don`t understand why you and some other posters can`t just focus on the actual result and be happy

Its the way in which we won.

I know how it sounds (honestly, I really do ), but I just can't sit back with thinking 'this is totally fine'. its not.

Technically yes, we did enough to win and I'm happy we did (obviously). However not having single shot until that KLP effort near the end of the first half - against this dross Wolves team isn't exactly something to cheer about (is it).

I'm more concerned about our recent trend in the games since Brighton away. We've supplied very little threat to opposition goals since then and of course, since then, we've beaten Burnley 3-1 and won away today.

But I'm sorry to say this - these wins were expected, however even so:
- Burnley: we only showed up in the last 10 mins, at home, to a relegation bound team.
- Wolves: We barely showed up at all until the second half, whereby both of our goals came as a consequences of Wolves complete and utter incompetence to deafened (I wouldn't completely say it was due to how well we attacked).

Last season, yes we were roughly in the same position as we are now - but when we won games last year, we won with conviction and showed a confident attacking display - playing quick, direct and very often, effective football.

I haven't seen that this season. Not say say that were in trouble of being relegated or suggesting anything such as this. I think you would have to be unhinged to feel that way.

There are just issues in our style of play which absolutely need addressing.

Merry Christmas anyway...

 

[TOXIC BEE]

Pretty flat performance, although much better 2nd half than 1st and good to finally get a clean sheet. Hopefully the 3 points will bring some confidence now and we’ll see a big performance after Christmas against Bournemouth.

Massive credit to both KLP, with his 2 goals, and Vitaly, who was everywhere I thought in midfield today, for stepping up in the absence of Dango and Hendo.

 

[mhead bee]

Pleased to get a win but I really question the lack of any subs. No issue with keeping Henderson on the bench, but if Thiago is also carrying a knock then why not take him off once the match is in hand?

Is Thiago carrying a knock? he looked fine to me.

Mate, this is really good day, anyone who thought there was an iota of chance of us being dragged in relegation should be sitting with a big smile today, we have just killed that notion, but the search for negativity is amazing.

 

[ABEEE]

It was. Try and think positive. Your life will change.

I get it glass half full, but we know the talent we have and should expect to be better than we have been away!

Granted there are definitely negative people on here by nature, vast majority call it how they see it IMO.

 

[BFChero]

U beeeeeeeeeeeeees

 

[Frenchbee]

Nurse, give the man a nappy. He's obsessed with wetting the bed!

Question: Do bedwetters keep clean sheets? Just a thought!

 

[HaylingBee74]

Only 1 sub made today..

If they had scored the pen, I think he would have

 

[LostBee]

Try and think positive. Your life will change.

This is actually the best bit of advice anyone will ever get on the GPG.

Apart from why washing your hands after a piss is essential.

 

[Banana]

There are just issues in our style of play which absolutely need addressing.

Bryan and Wissa have left mate.

We need to play to our players' strengths.

Let's see what happens in January.

 

[ABEEE]

Apart from why washing your hands after a piss is essential.

I’m not falling for that propaganda!

 

[Paul_T]

FT
0-2

A fantastic second half performance
Delighted for KLP
Clean sheet
Kelleher is the penalty king
Miles clear of the bottom 3
European push still on
Bedwetters quiet over Christmas

COYB

Bedwetters seem to be encouraged if anything, f***ing mugs. Amazing how some people always look for the negatives innit? Happy Christmas

 

[North London Bee]

We were in a bad place and today we won away from home.

There’s a lot you can get picky about but today is a fantastic boost as it helps get us back on track and restore some lost confidence.

Let’s just feel happy and relieved tonight and leave the quibbles and concerns for another day

 

[Paul_T]

Get in there Bees. Thought Janelt had a great game especially in the second half. Well done to KLP on his two goals

Vita was great, especially considering people have been saying he's not up to the mark. Solid performance again.

 

[Untouchable]

Happy Christmas

And to you. COYB

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Vita was great, especially considering people have been saying he's not up to the mark. Solid performance again.

I think he's played quite well this season.

 

[Banana]

We were in a bad place

When was this? 1974?

 

[Les Beeavinu]

When was this? 1974?

No, Wolverhampton. A very bad place.

 

[Easter 1959]

When was this? 1974?

Defo, February and March 1974 before Jimmy Gabriel came.

 

[fencer/bee]

Thank God for the win today , I've cancelled sundays double decker bus to beachy head , (it was full )
And I was the driver!

 

[Guildford_Bee]

Great 3pts and well done those that travelled, great support. So pleased for KLP and for Kelleher, both growing in confidence. Wolves really are dire. Enjoy your evening folks and have a wonderful Christmas.

 

[HaylingBee74]

Is Thiago carrying a knock? he looked fine to me.

Mate, this is really good day, anyone who thought there was an iota of chance of us being dragged in relegation should be sitting with a big smile today, we have just killed that notion, but the search for negativity is amazing.

Bournemouth were flying high in 2nd after match 9.
4 losses and 4 draws since then and they could be 6th from bottom if F’ham win vs NF
It seems a strange season where form is very fleeting

 

[taxi driver]

But you said you thought he got the ball.

Yes I did

I thought he had but CLEARLY he didn't given that VAR didn't overrule it.

 

[IslandBee]

No, Wolverhampton. A very bad place.

I actually quite like the city centre!!

On the match @North London Bee hits nail on head above. Win was most important thing and, in any case, second half performance was pretty encouraging.

Not really a night to be negative!

 

[damsgard.szn]

Jee you’re almost being positive for a change. Three defeats on the bounce, confidence gets shaken and have to rebuild it. Today was a good start. Happy Christmas

I comment on every single match, win draw loss… Today was a good start indeed. wishing you and the family a merry christmas mate!

 

[ABEEE]

We all just want our Brentford to do well at the end of the day.

 

[damsgard.szn]

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Before their late pen, we were over a whole xG ahead


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‘before the late pen’ while also talk about our xg in the league while including all of our pens…. stay consistent.

 

[PDXUSA-Bee]

Great 2nd half with two unstoppable volleys from KLP and another penalty save for Kelleher.
Kelleher has now stopped 6 of his last 11 penalties that were not in penalty shootouts. (56% vs league average of 20%)
His career victims have included Kylian Mbappe, Bruno Fernandes, and Cristiano Renaldo. What an addition he's been!
23 points in seventeen games. That pace equates to 51 over the full season



KLP's first was a perfectly struck volley into left corner



The 2nd was another unstoppable volley into the right corner

Bournemouth is next and the Bees have five wins and one draw in the last six vs them. Another home win and back to the top half of the table would be nice holiday gift.

 

[Sianist]

Don’t actually think we played particularily well … but we didn’t have to so

 

[ABEEE]

Don’t actually think we played particularily well … but we didn’t have to so

Guess it just shows we have enough quality to not go down! Lets look upwards.

 

[GABS]

Just watched the Sky highlights, right player, wrong kit, burn all the I say

 

[Banana]

‘before the late pen’ while also talk about our xg in the league while including all of our pens…. stay consistent.

It's in the chart above. You really are the most negative person your wife has ever met.

Please stop trying to drag me and everyone else into your whirlpool of doom and gloom.

 

[Banana]

Just watched the Sky highlights, right player, wrong kit, burn all the I say

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Oh no. We're going to lose in that kit!

 

[Irsky]

We’ve got exactly the same number of points after 17 games as we did when TF was in charge last season.

We’ve even conceded 7 fewer goals.

Since then we’ve lost our head coach, most of the back room staff, our keeper, our captain and our 2 top scorers.

I readily conclude that in the circumstances our first 17 games of this season were better than the first 17 games of last season.

Still, bedwetters are gonna wet the bed aren’t they.

So your happy with the way in which we have played since Brighton away?

If so... you carry on.

I do acknowledge your post and points made, However, to contrast, we rank 2nd bottom more passing % in the final 3rd, and rank 15th in the league for number of assists, suggestive of a rebound goals.

HOWEVER - - - I don't want to be a 'doomsdayer', I don't think anyone appreciates that.

We're not in danger of relegation, and we may even do well in the cup and, the league is a lot tighter this season, keeping us in the running for a decent finish in the table - which would be fantastic for both Andrews and the club.

Believe me, I know a few people who are a lot more 'negative' than me, and dislike Andrews a damn sight more. So, when talking to them I often express a contrast to what I display on the GPG.

So, I am merely playing devils advocate, although I do believe that there are some issues that need addressing (its clear to see).

Merry Christmas.

You BEEESS

 

[hardybee]

When did KLP last score? Very pleased for him; should be a big confidence boost. The second half was considerably better than the first and Schade really should have scored with the header. Thank goodness Strand Larsen produced such a poor penalty, otherwise the last 5 minutes would have been nasty. Mane, the sub, was very good for Wolves (glad he didn't start the game); thankfully all the rest were pretty hopeless.

January, I think I heard

 

[BEEm us up Scotty]

And they thought that Collins was not good enough for them.

I bet he enjoyed that today.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Its the way in which we won.

I know how it sounds (honestly, I really do ), but I just can't sit back with thinking 'this is totally fine'. its not.

Technically yes, we did enough to win and I'm happy we did (obviously). However not having single shot until that KLP effort near the end of the first half - against this dross Wolves team isn't exactly something to cheer about (is it).

I'm more concerned about our recent trend in the games since Brighton away. We've supplied very little threat to opposition goals since then and of course, since then, we've beaten Burnley 3-1 and won away today.

But I'm sorry to say this - these wins were expected, however even so:
- Burnley: we only showed up in the last 10 mins, at home, to a relegation bound team.
- Wolves: We barely showed up at all until the second half, whereby both of our goals came as a consequences of Wolves complete and utter incompetence to deafened (I wouldn't completely say it was due to how well we attacked).

Last season, yes we were roughly in the same position as we are now - but when we won games last year, we won with conviction and showed a confident attacking display - playing quick, direct and very often, effective football.

I haven't seen that this season. Not say say that were in trouble of being relegated or suggesting anything such as this. I think you would have to be unhinged to feel that way.

There are just issues in our style of play which absolutely need addressing.

Merry Christmas anyway...

Style of play isnt great i give you that.

But any win this this league should be cherished. We have no right to think there are easy 3 points in any season against any team.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

Style of play isnt great i give you that.

But any win this this league should be cherished. We have no right to think there are easy 3 points in any season against any team.

This!
Remember how long it took Arsenal to break them.
I've had my doubts about KA but 23 points with 2 games to play before the turn around ?
After all the changes at the beginning of the season, who wouldn't have taken that.

 

[Untouchable]

So your happy with the way in which we have played since Brighton away?

No. Some of it hasn’t been good enough and we’ve been lacking in areas where we like to excel such as xG.

My main gripe this season is that some folk on here have already decided that KA isn’t up to it. One poster was even demanding he was sacked before the Forest match finished.

We played some truly awful football under TF. KA is entitled to the same patience that TF was given despite taking over under much more challenging circumstances.

Too often on here people are quick to jump on the club when we concede or lose but won’t acknowledge when things go well.

It’s been a solid if unspectacular start under KA but I have no doubt we will evolve and improve

Finally, Merry Christmas to you and yours.

 

[taxi driver]

Lovely to see KLP step in when Dango is absent

A couple of incomings in the new year and things could get really interesting for us

We aren't very pleasing on the eye however and appear to be a little short of confidence which seems to slow our play down. Defences with a fraction more time tend to win out.

We are in a decent position given the summer of change
Tough to watch
A couple of quality players short imo

We should be better in the 2nd half of the season and I'm hoping we will see KA add some layers

Happy Christmas all

 

[francistowerssc]

From the BBC:-

• Brentford's Caoimhin Kelleher has saved three of the five penalties that he has faced in the Premier League, with his 60% save rate the highest of any goalkeeper to have faced five or more penalties in the competition.

 

[AB]

Its the way in which we won.

I know how it sounds (honestly, I really do ), but I just can't sit back with thinking 'this is totally fine'. its not.

Technically yes, we did enough to win and I'm happy we did (obviously). However not having single shot until that KLP effort near the end of the first half - against this dross Wolves team isn't exactly something to cheer about (is it).

I'm more concerned about our recent trend in the games since Brighton away. We've supplied very little threat to opposition goals since then and of course, since then, we've beaten Burnley 3-1 and won away today.

But I'm sorry to say this - these wins were expected, however even so:
- Burnley: we only showed up in the last 10 mins, at home, to a relegation bound team.
- Wolves: We barely showed up at all until the second half, whereby both of our goals came as a consequences of Wolves complete and utter incompetence to deafened (I wouldn't completely say it was due to how well we attacked).

Last season, yes we were roughly in the same position as we are now - but when we won games last year, we won with conviction and showed a confident attacking display - playing quick, direct and very often, effective football.

I haven't seen that this season. Not say say that were in trouble of being relegated or suggesting anything such as this. I think you would have to be unhinged to feel that way.

There are just issues in our style of play which absolutely need addressing.

Merry Christmas anyway...

The difference is one of perception. Of course it feels much better and more exciting to win 5-3 after being pegged back twice in the first 25 minutes as we did v Wolves at home last season. Knowing you have the attacking power to keep scoring makes games brilliant fun. Similarly, we can quickly forget letting Ipswich race into a 2-0 lead and be unlucky not to add a third when we win 4-3.

1-0, 2-0 wins where we’ve not looked very threatening until we scored will just feel worse. If we beat Bournemouth 1-0 next weekend I’m sure it’ll seem very drab compared to last season’s 3-2.

But I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect the team after losing 40 PL goals from Mbeumo and Wissa simply to cruise straight back into that swashbuckling style. Nor to discount being a load more defensively solid (iirc we’ve cut goals conceded by about 25% and that is massive in a game of fine margins) because it looks much more boring and conservative than scoring at will.

 

[Frothybaby]

Its the way in which we won.

I know how it sounds (honestly, I really do ), but I just can't sit back with thinking 'this is totally fine'. its not.

Technically yes, we did enough to win and I'm happy we did (obviously). However not having single shot until that KLP effort near the end of the first half - against this dross Wolves team isn't exactly something to cheer about (is it).

I'm more concerned about our recent trend in the games since Brighton away. We've supplied very little threat to opposition goals since then and of course, since then, we've beaten Burnley 3-1 and won away today.

But I'm sorry to say this - these wins were expected, however even so:
- Burnley: we only showed up in the last 10 mins, at home, to a relegation bound team.
- Wolves: We barely showed up at all until the second half, whereby both of our goals came as a consequences of Wolves complete and utter incompetence to deafened (I wouldn't completely say it was due to how well we attacked).

Last season, yes we were roughly in the same position as we are now - but when we won games last year, we won with conviction and showed a confident attacking display - playing quick, direct and very often, effective football.

I haven't seen that this season. Not say say that were in trouble of being relegated or suggesting anything such as this. I think you would have to be unhinged to feel that way.

There are just issues in our style of play which absolutely need addressing.

Merry Christmas anyway...

Anyone else read this in the voice of Marvin the depressed robot from Hitchikers ... ?

 

[hanworthbee]

Pleased to get a win but I really question the lack of any subs. No issue with keeping Henderson on the bench, but if Thiago is also carrying a knock then why not take him off once the match is in hand?

Question the subs then the lack of subs ! Poor old Keith

 

[BournemouthBee]

There's always been large gaps up there. One season it was about 200 yards!

Anyway, clubs are not permitted to change the dimensions of the pitch during the season.

I checked my selfie from May's game and you're right - seems the same.

 

[westendbee]

Nurse, give the man a nappy. He's obsessed with wetting the bed!

You were quiet today

 

[rebus]

Its the way in which we won.

I know how it sounds (honestly, I really do ), but I just can't sit back with thinking 'this is totally fine'. its not.

Technically yes, we did enough to win and I'm happy we did (obviously). However not having single shot until that KLP effort near the end of the first half - against this dross Wolves team isn't exactly something to cheer about (is it).

I'm more concerned about our recent trend in the games since Brighton away. We've supplied very little threat to opposition goals since then and of course, since then, we've beaten Burnley 3-1 and won away today.

But I'm sorry to say this - these wins were expected, however even so:
- Burnley: we only showed up in the last 10 mins, at home, to a relegation bound team.
- Wolves: We barely showed up at all until the second half, whereby both of our goals came as a consequences of Wolves complete and utter incompetence to deafened (I wouldn't completely say it was due to how well we attacked).

Last season, yes we were roughly in the same position as we are now - but when we won games last year, we won with conviction and showed a confident attacking display - playing quick, direct and very often, effective football.

I haven't seen that this season. Not say say that were in trouble of being relegated or suggesting anything such as this. I think you would have to be unhinged to feel that way.

There are just issues in our style of play which absolutely need addressing.

Merry Christmas anyway...

Just follow someone else if you can’t see the wider picture. We are still a work in progress. No new manager and pretty much new backroom team moulds their style in just 17 games.

 

[roadealing]

Its the way in which we won.

I know how it sounds (honestly, I really do ), but I just can't sit back with thinking 'this is totally fine'. its not.

Technically yes, we did enough to win and I'm happy we did (obviously). However not having single shot until that KLP effort near the end of the first half - against this dross Wolves team isn't exactly something to cheer about (is it).

I'm more concerned about our recent trend in the games since Brighton away. We've supplied very little threat to opposition goals since then and of course, since then, we've beaten Burnley 3-1 and won away today.

But I'm sorry to say this - these wins were expected, however even so:
- Burnley: we only showed up in the last 10 mins, at home, to a relegation bound team.
- Wolves: We barely showed up at all until the second half, whereby both of our goals came as a consequences of Wolves complete and utter incompetence to deafened (I wouldn't completely say it was due to how well we attacked).

Last season, yes we were roughly in the same position as we are now - but when we won games last year, we won with conviction and showed a confident attacking display - playing quick, direct and very often, effective football.

I haven't seen that this season. Not say say that were in trouble of being relegated or suggesting anything such as this. I think you would have to be unhinged to feel that way.

There are just issues in our style of play which absolutely need addressing.

Merry Christmas anyway...

You can’t compare us to the team that played last season. We saw the culmination of years of planning and developing. Wissa and Mbeumo weren’t always the players they are now, Wissa especially used to be very wasteful when holding the ball up. We took two very good strikers to their peaks, we’re never going to sign replacements at the same level already.

Not to mention Norgaard was central to everything we’ve done well in the Premier League, our game flowed through him and he’s a much better passer of the ball than Henderson is. It’s difficult to find players of that quality for a price we can afford, we have one of the lowest wage and transfer budgets in the league.

This is Thiago’s first season in the Prem, Dango has never played regularly before either. They are both rough diamonds who have work to do on their build up play, like their predecessors had to do. Henderson doesn’t really have the range of passing or flexibility when passing that Norgaard had. This means the best way for us to create chances is to go long and play to the strengths of our very big and very fast forward line.

If Carvalho and Milambo weren’t out for the season then we’d likely see more of them throughout December and Jan, allowing us to expand the way we want to play. But that can’t happen.

There really aren’t many other options available to how we’re playing, and unfortunately there isn’t any time in the calendar at the moment to do work on the training ground.