Wolves 0 Brentford 2 (Lewis-Potter 2)

[Irsky]

Just follow someone else if you can’t see the wider picture. We are still a work in progress. No new manager and pretty much new backroom team moulds their style in just 17 games.

I understand that where not going to achieve perfection this season, Its not what I'm looking for, however...

Suggesting that anyone who complains should just 'go and follow someone else' is just childish and rather pathetic.

 

[mattybscrystalball]

Great to see the result today.

While the person complaining about the style of play has some points, I think Andrews is simply working with the players he’s got. I’d like to see the forwards be more direct, and maybe even use Thiago for more 2nd balls, but I don’t think the coach wants that and he surely knows best. They’re comfortable recycling possession and looking for the line breaking pass with Henderson or passing it around in the horseshoe of doom in the final third and looking for goals that way.

I’ll be happy with 40 points and survival this year. Don’t want Brentford becoming a “West Ham way (whatever that means)” type of club that can’t win games or are delusional about what they can do.

AFCON is coming, hopefully that doesn’t cause too many problems and Henderson doesn’t get injured either.

COYB!

 

[A Real Mysteron]

Well done to the boys.
Perhaps I should predict a loss more often.

 

[Houghton Bee]

It's in the chart above. You really are the most negative person your wife has ever met.

Please stop trying to drag me and everyone else into your whirlpool of doom and gloom.

Under 16s cant get married.

 

[GABS]

Oh no. We're going to lose in that kit!

It does make me chuckle

 

[RAF_Patto]

This is a season where someone "established" is going to get dragged down with a couple of promoted teams. As far as I am concerned, as long as we win games, I don't really care how we do it.

It would be great to blow teams away, but we're Brentford, that's not going to happen very often. Winning dirty, 2 nil, away from home, will do me. Our away form has been poor, so that's a great 3 points.

Keep moving forward.

 

[Untouchable]

Our away form has been poor, so that's a great 3 points.

2 more away wins than TF had at this point last season!

 

[Lozza]

Back home.
Big win.
Most noticeable frustration in first half was the front three in a horizontal line when we had the ball. Makes long ball the only option.
Once we scored, Thiago and Potter started to come towards the ball and we played a bit.
Work in progress - once we sort the passing between the lines we will be more fluid.
Van de B, CK and Jensen all deserve a mention.

 

[Lozza]

2 more away wins than TF had at this point last season!

We hadn't played Soton or Leicester yet

 

[Harrison]

Was really hoping klp would get his hatrrick, that win should get us back on winning terms again after a minor slip up, COYB

 

[rebus]

I understand that where not going to achieve perfection this season, Its not what I'm looking for, however...

Suggesting that anyone who complains should just 'go and follow someone else' is just childish and rather pathetic.

Yes, but you were comparing last season with an established coach and back room team. Apples and oranges. I’ll say it again, follow someone else if you’re coming away from today with a whinge.

 

[AB]

We hadn't played Soton or Leicester yet

While that’s true it’s worth looking at who we had played home and away both seasons.

So yes, we probably had somewhat harder aways we’d not normally expect to win. But we also had a lot of “easy” home games by this stage last season. We’d beaten the likes of Wolves, Luton and Ipswich at home, not Man U, Villa and Liverpool.

 

[Roman Bee]

sometimes we do win away

 

[nick logan]

Lovely to see KLP step in when Dango is absent

A couple of incomings in the new year and things could get really interesting for us

We aren't very pleasing on the eye however and appear to be a little short of confidence which seems to slow our play down. Defences with a fraction more time tend to win out.

We are in a decent position given the summer of change
Tough to watch
A couple of quality players short imo

We should be better in the 2nd half of the season and I'm hoping we will see KA add some layers

Happy Christmas all

Thought we played some great football second half

 

[ABEEE]

Thought we played some great football second half

Yeah not sure what the discontent is about, of course each to their own but it was night and day between the two halves.

Wolves had their moments but they weren’t exactly on top

 

[taxi driver]

Thought we played some great football second half

Thought we played some great football second half

We did, that was more about the overall season

Shhh.... @Edmundo will be on to me

 

[Roman Bee]

sometimes we do win away

and it's always f*cking worth it

 

[brentford born & bred]

It was. Try and think positive. Your life will change.

It's Brentford. I remember being at the play off final when we were 2 nil up, at half time queuing up for a beer and Bees supporter in front of me turned around and said "do you think we can hang on"

 

[josht]

Any away win in the Premier League is an excellent three points regardless of the performance.

A tepid first half, but we stuck at it and came out with greater impetus in the second half. We worked hard and held our composure, and it paid off.

Whilst it's a little concerning how ineffective Thiago has been recently, we definitely need other players to start scoring and we saw that today with two very well taken goals from KLP. On another day Damsgaard and Schade could've helped themselves to goals too. Two great opportunities for six more points against Bournemouth and Spurs coming up.

 

[Beelated]

Not the prettiest game of football today at Wolves, but the team achieved what we, the fans, wanted; a win and three important points. And as it was our last game before Christmas it has (I hope) sent us into the holiday period with a great feeling of accomplishment knowing that we can relax and enjoy the festive period without the thoughts of doubt lingering in the memory to spoil it.

I think it’s fair to say that since our victory against Burnley, where we had to be patient playing against a team determined to defend before we achieved the win, we have played two fixtures against Man City and Arsenal where the expectations for us to come away with points was low (we played well against both sides and the goals conceded were limited to three over the two games) followed by a trip to Spurs that was a disappointing result where the team performed very poorly leading to a rather tense game against Leeds. A game where the points were shared and, upon reflection, was probably a fair result.

Playing a Wolves side, lacking in confidence and suffering from a desperate start to the season, who had played better recently against Arsenal, gave thoughts of the possibility of the typical generosity that BFC sometimes give to teams at the bottom of the league where peculiar results happen (“…it’s Brentford, innit?”), but today was different; playing against a team who played with a back five (at home!) against a mid-table side where, in similar fashion to the games against Burnley and Leeds, we had to try and create opportunities.

These opportunities were few and far between and the difficulties we had were that, at present, the main bulk of the team is made up of defensive-minded players due to the lack of experienced attack-minded players being available for selection where incisive forward passes are not second-nature for these players resulting in the ball being played around the back line or being played back towards our own goal to keep possession.

And, after the positive start to the second half, it almost seemed like we would regret not converting chances until KLP broke the deadlock by being alert to score the first goal. The team then showed signs of what we had seen earlier in the season, confidence in their passing and imposing themselves on the opposition. KLP was also the ‘Johnny-on-the-spot’ to get the second goal and there was a huge sense of relief from the travelling supporters confident in securing the win.

Again, in typical Bees fashion, we gave Wolves the chance to get back into the game by giving away a penalty, superbly saved by Kelleher. After that we knew that there was only one outcome; an away win and a relaxing trip back home.

 

[westendbee]

Its the way in which we won.

I know how it sounds (honestly, I really do ), but I just can't sit back with thinking 'this is totally fine'. its not.

Technically yes, we did enough to win and I'm happy we did (obviously). However not having single shot until that KLP effort near the end of the first half - against this dross Wolves team isn't exactly something to cheer about (is it).

I'm more concerned about our recent trend in the games since Brighton away. We've supplied very little threat to opposition goals since then and of course, since then, we've beaten Burnley 3-1 and won away today.

But I'm sorry to say this - these wins were expected, however even so:
- Burnley: we only showed up in the last 10 mins, at home, to a relegation bound team.
- Wolves: We barely showed up at all until the second half, whereby both of our goals came as a consequences of Wolves complete and utter incompetence to deafened (I wouldn't completely say it was due to how well we attacked).

Last season, yes we were roughly in the same position as we are now - but when we won games last year, we won with conviction and showed a confident attacking display - playing quick, direct and very often, effective football.

I haven't seen that this season. Not say say that were in trouble of being relegated or suggesting anything such as this. I think you would have to be unhinged to feel that way.

There are just issues in our style of play which absolutely need addressing.

Merry Christmas anyway...

At this stage last season we had won “with conviction” at home to *checks notes* Ipswich, Southampton, Leicester, Wolves…

Basically all of those teams were a defensive shambles : this season we have had to work hard to break down the likes of Burnley who don’t give too many goals away easily … sometimes it ain’t gonna be pretty but we can grind out 3 points when it matters

 

[westendbee]

I understand that where not going to achieve perfection this season, Its not what I'm looking for, however...

Suggesting that anyone who complains should just 'go and follow someone else' is just childish and rather pathetic.

So why are you moaning when we are enjoying the best period in our history (for those who may quibble, certainly the best period in the last 85 years)?
We’re not going to beat Premier League teams by playing silky football, we’re doing it by being gritty and hard to beat.
As I’ve said before, if we wanted to make friends in the Premier League we would play in orange and call ourselves “Luton” … who are currently *checks notes* outside the playoff places in League One

 

[JPince]

So why are you moaning when we are enjoying the best period in our history (for those who may quibble, certainly the best period in the last 85 years)?
We’re not going to beat Premier League teams by playing silky football, we’re doing it by being gritty and hard to beat.
As I’ve said before, if we wanted to make friends in the Premier League we would play in orange and call ourselves “Luton” … who are currently *checks notes* outside the playoff places in League One

Don't get sucked in by new brentford...imagine if you supported brentford for all of 2 seasons this would be your worst period as well .

 

[niallrock]

Keith isn't doing himself any favours dropping our best player and the only bloke who can create a chance

Idiot comment

 

[AB]

Don't get sucked in by new brentford...imagine if you supported brentford for all of 2 seasons this would be your worst period as well .

I’d not blame New Brentford. Almost all the biggest bedwetters/ooh this style is turgid folks are long-standing fans. Their opinions are not based on a lack of experience of the really bad times.

 

[Irsky]

Don't get sucked in by new brentford...imagine if you supported brentford for all of 2 seasons this would be your worst period as well .

Been supporting the Bees since the Jan of 2011.

Nowhere near as long as many that are on here, but still long enough to remeber the times being in League 1 and the away days to places such as Swindon, Yeovil and Scunthorpe.

So believe me, I understand that within the 'grand scheme of things', were absolutely flying.

But just because were in the premier league, doesn't mean its unjust to point out issues and weaknesses within the team.

 

[Manliketrevor]

‘Happy to see Rico start again. Not sure what’s going on with Damsgaard, personally would have liked him on the wing instead of KLP. Keano just doesn’t do enough for me, although this would be a good game for him to get his confidence up.’

Well I guess Keano listened! Happy for him and hope he can keep this up!

 

[bee1958]

It's Brentford. I remember being at the play off final when we were 2 nil up, at half time queuing up for a beer and Bees supporter in front of me turned around and said "do you think we can hang on"

Isn’t that an apocryphal story - I recall the bars were shut - but I understand the attitude totally - didn’t relax until 85’.

 

[Banana]

But just because were in the premier league, doesn't mean its unjust to point out issues and weaknesses within the team.

How about pointing out positives, strengths and achievements within the team? Have you tried that?

 

[Irsky]

How about pointing out positives, strengths and achievements within the team? Have you tried that?

I tried that once but I must be allergic to it.

came up with a nasty rash not long after!

Never again

 

[JPince]

Been supporting the Bees since the Jan of 2011.

Nowhere near as long as many that are on here, but still long enough to remeber the times being in League 1 and the away days to places such as Swindon, Yeovil and Scunthorpe.

So believe me, I understand that within the 'grand scheme of things', were absolutely flying.

But just because were in the premier league, doesn't mean its unjust to point out issues and weaknesses within the team.

Apologies...its just that the majority (not all) off the negative brigade stumbled across the gig after we made the prem (but supported since 1990 obvs).

 

[AB]

Isn’t that an apocryphal story - I recall the bars were shut - but I understand the attitude totally - didn’t relax until 85’.

Watching on telly with my son he couldn’t understand why I was nervous until that point. IIRC it was around then that Cooper shook TF’s hand and went into the changing room to let TF have the limelight (actually a v classy thing for Cooper to have done). Son is quite new Brentford as his first game was when we won promotion from L2 at Darlington.

 

[DaveP]

Absolutely bloody marvellous, every away win in the Premier League is brilliant and to be cherished. Sitting in a Brum Travelodge with the family the boy and I are still buzzing. For all of the away defeats we see these wins are lifetime memories, positively is our bag. Not the greatest game but who cares, we got it done. Sitting on 23 points we've broken the back of the season 16 games in, so well played all

 

[Banana]

Absolutely bloody marvellous, every away win in the Premier League is brilliant and to be cherished. Sitting in a Brum Travelodge with the family the boy and I are still buzzing. For all of the away defeats we see these wins are lifetime memories, positively is our bag. Not the greatest game but who cares, we got it done. Sitting on 23 points we've broken the back of the season 16 games in, so well played all

 

[damsgard.szn]

It's in the chart above. You really are the most negative person your wife has ever met.

Please stop trying to drag me and everyone else into your whirlpool of doom and gloom.

my family is none of your business, but as per usual, your on your high horse.

be consistent.

 

[Friji]

My goodness Wolves are a shocking football team, got to respect their fans for turning up to watch them every week.. they're rotten to the core.

Nice to have that winning feeling again, even if it was against a sub-standard team.. but winning is good no matter who it's against so hoping we can carry some of this confidence into festive period!

 

[Paul_T]

My goodness Wolves are a shocking football team, got to respect their fans for turning up to watch them every week.. they're rotten to the core.

Nice to have that winning feeling again, even if it was against a sub-standard team.. but winning is good no matter who it's against so hoping we can carry some of this confidence into festive period!

Their fans were great, sung their hearts out second half, shame their team is complete gash

 

[N5022N122]

Never a pen. Wolves had more XG!

 

[Banana]

Never a pen. Wolves had more XG!

No they didn't!

 

[hobbsy]

Never a pen. Wolves had more XG!

Yes but 0.79 of that was the penalty. Non pen xg was 0.37 vs 1.28

 

[taxi driver]

Did I see that Wolves turned down £50M or do for their penalty taker in the summer

 

[Griffin]

Low quality game but we got the job done, we were much better than them. I thought we did very well at regaining possession quickly when we lost it, which helped to stifle Wolves building any momentum. I thought Janelt was our best player, very assured and well done to KLP for the finishes.
KLP and Schade had no joy in the first half but both seemed to play more inside in the 2nd half, KLP was much more instrumental further inside so credit KA for tweaking that.
Sepp injured his groin late on and was struggling quite a bit with it at the end. Hope he recovers from that quickly.

 

[jlove]

Did I see that Wolves turned down £50M or do for their penalty taker in the summer

I think there were rumours that a ‘big club’ (cant remember which) were trying to buy him but, judging by this season, I’d guess they weren’t true.

 

[True Bee]

Low quality game but we got the job done, we were much better than them. I thought we did very well at regaining possession quickly when we lost it, which helped to stifle Wolves building any momentum. I thought Janelt was our best player, very assured and well done to KLP for the finishes.
KLP and Schade had no joy in the first half but both seemed to play more inside in the 2nd half, KLP was much more instrumental further inside so credit KA for tweaking that.
Sepp injured his groin late on and was struggling quite a bit with it at the end. Hope he recovers from that quickly.

So am I right in thinking after 17 games we have the same points and 1 goal less than last season not bad for a team who were decimated in the summer !!!!!!! Coyb coyb coyb

 

[Jay Bee]

This is a season where someone "established" is going to get dragged down with a couple of promoted teams.

Sounds reasonable... I reckon Wolves are a decent bet to be that "someone", don't you?

 

[coconino]

Not the most scintillating match, but an excellent result which will hopefully go some way to settle the nerves of our twitchiest brethren, especially as we got a close-up view of a side which is genuinely in trouble. I have some sympathy for the Wolves fans, it’s not them who have brought their club to this point, and I felt that derogatory chants from our end about the fans’ protest were a bit off colour.

It’s a good ground to visit on a sunny day, but the away seating being long and narrow doesn’t do much for the away end/side atmosphere, which I suppose is why it’s like that.

 

[Aussie Bee]

Wow - I could not believe just how sh*t Wolves were!

Well done lads

 

[upnorthbee]

The first half was a bit of a tough watch but we dominated possession and never looked under any threat whatsoever. Collins looked like he was moving in treacle when half heartedly trying to stop a Hwang cross and Rico uncharacteristically kept making mistakes... but they never looked like taking advantage of it.

2nd half started quite slowly too but Schade had 2 opportunities on the bounce (probably should have scored the first) and we finally woke up. I thought Jensen was unlucky to come off but Damsgaard kept popping up in the right areas and showed again why he's our most effective attacking midfielder. I thought Thiago was unusually ineffective throughout. I couldn't be happier for KLP, one of the good guys for sure and clearly works his socks off in training.

Talk of the playing style etc, I really think KA's job this season is to keep us competitive and to rebuild... not to play like a Pep team, Ange ball or Klopp's Heavy metal football. I think every criticism this year needs an * next to it, otherwise you look like you don't understand the situation.

Its a major achievement to be 10 points away from relegation at Christmas, and it's wild to read that people still aren't happy. Very proud of Keith yet again and I love bragging about being a Brentford fan in Australia, it's a badge of honour.

 

[BuzzingBee95]

What a win, both for the team and for KA personally. Silencing the critics, most of all himself in regards to our away form. A few standouts from today:

- As much as Igor’s form has been a revelation, it’s important others add a few goals too. So it’s great that KLP got 2.

- Both Vitaly and MJ grabbing their chances to impress, more than mere rotation options.

- CK penalty save. That clean sheet will feel twice as sweet

- 10 points clear of the drop

 

[BuzzingBee95]

When it comes to character, there aren’t many more likeable than KLP.

But It’s so hard not to assume you already know how he’ll do today. He’ll be fine and nothing more. I wish more than anything for him to surprise him, to prove me wrong.

Ideally we’d be set up to include Dams over him but there you go

Football. A game that likes to remind you that fundamentally you know f**k all about it